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KAMAL KABABIBOU-MD.
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ELLIJAY,GA., 30540

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I actually accidentally stumbled across this web site while doing a search for Dr. Kabakibou's Ellijay phone number.  This doctor has been treating my 80-year-old mother for almost 2 years now.  She doesn't go there for drugs.  She goes there for injections in her knee and back.  Is Dr. Kabakibou like most stiff shirted doctors in this country?  Nope.  He's very different.  His personality actually caught us off guard but we have grown to love this man.  He's actually very funny and does everything he can to take my mom's mind off whets happening while injecting those horribly painful places.  He offers my mother something not one other doctor she has been to offers....hope.  He has listened to everything she says and he has been spot on when it comes to her treatment.  Is he busy?  You bet this scorecard he's busy.  Are there clients waiting to see him that look a bit strung out while we're waiting our turn?  Yep...but after being hit by a driver myself in Atlanta several months ago I have learned not to be judgmental about how others look.  Until we walk a few steps in their shoes we don't know what their level of pain or circumstances are.  Dr. Kabakibou is no different from any other doctor we have been to in the past 5 years in the respect that the average doctor spends only 5 - 7 minutes with every patient that walks through their door.  Dr. Kabakibou looked at my mother's x-rays and immediately pointed out the areas that were causing her problems.  Sometimes he is able to treat her in the office with injections.  Sometimes she has to go in as an outpatient for the injections directly in the spine.  I'm not crazy about his staff.  I did feel they were very unfriendly for the most part and the office he is currently having to use is in dire need of upgrading but Ellijay is in the process of building a new hospital and facilities.  It may be a year or so but eventually the office he works out of will be much better.  Don't know what to say about the staff.  Just wish they would smile more and be more accommodating to the patients.  A smile goes a long way......if nothing else it makes people feel like you're there because you care and not just for a paycheck every week.  Anyway...best of luck to the poster that had a bad experience.   I hate anyone felt they had a bad experience with him and I do sincerely hope you find the kind of doctor you want and need.  This doctor may not be for everyone but he is definitely for my mom.   In her eyes he’s a keeper and that’s important to me. 



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Comments by SugarMagnolia on 03/06/08, 9:53 pm

I'm not much for doctors who do not spend time with their patients.  How can you make an honest assessment of a patient in only 5 - 7 minutes??  This is NOT the normal practice of the doctors I have been to.  I don't tolerate doctors who don't have time for me. Period. Same goes for my husband, children, pet or any other people in my life I may be taking in for a doctor visit.  The health of my loved ones or even myself is more important than that, and 5 - 7 minutes just doesn't seem right to me.  This is in response to the comment:  'Dr. Kabakibou is no different from any other doctor we have been to in the past 5 years in the respect that the average doctor spends only 5 - 7 minutes with every patient that walks through their door.'  FYI - Mr. K. is cramming as many patients through his door as possible.  The almighty dollar is his priority.


Comments by GlindaWitch on 03/07/08, 11:31 pm

I must agree with Sugar - I can't recall the last time one of my docs spent only 5 to 7 mins with me.  My initial appt with Mr. Kabakibou consisted of  him berating me because my chart had not yet arrived from my GP's office.  Mr. Kabakibou explained to me in no uncertain terms how it was MY FAULT the records had not been forwarded.  Keep in mind that this initial appt with Mr. K was only 4 days after my visit to my GP (who referred my to Mr. K and who set the appt for that Sat.).  Since my appt was on a SAT, this left only 3.5 'business days' for my doc's office to get the necessary paperwork to him prior to my appt. 

My knew Pain Management Doc is so great - there is at least a night and day difference in his approach to treating his patients.  First, he does not 'triple book' as does Mr. K (as told to me by one of Mr. K's receptionists), second, the wait is no more than 15 min and you are taken back into a nice, relaxing room where the nurse logs into your file on the computer and begins to ask you the 'standard' questions and enters your answers into a computer right there in the room with you!  You don't ever have to submit one of those silly 'where does it hurt' forms!

Then the doc comes in minutes after the nurse finishes and actually listens to you!  You can tell he is listening because he makes appropriate comments and/or suggestions.

This doc also requires a urine test at the first appt which I really appreciate.  If a patent fails the test he/she will be declined services by my doc.

One other comment I must add...it took THREE WEEKS FOR the staff at Mr. K's office to forward my records to my new PM DOC!  It seems the office is not yes computerized and they actually OUTSOURCE with a company to digitally scan and maintain a COPY of our charts.  According to many PM docs I've sought treatment from this practice can be construed as not in the best interests of patient confidentality.


Comments by Graciewolf on 03/31/08, 1:07 pm

I have been seeing Dr. K for over a year.  I have Systemic Lupus, Advanced Coronary Heart Disease and the stents that seem to accompany that.  I also have some messed up disks in both my lumbar and cervical spine. When there is inflammation from lupus, I have a lot of pain.  When there isn't inflammation from lupus, I still have a lot of pain from those disks... but thwn the lupus is flaring, the pain becomes... 'special.'

Doctors have looked at me and told me that because of my age, etc... that I couldn't possibly be in that much pain.  My answer to that was easy... I chose to stop living.  I don't mean by hurting myself... I simply... stopped living.  I was depressed all of the time... I was hurting all of the time. 

Activity caused pain.

Sleep caused pain.

Sitting caused pain.

 

I saw Dr. K and he listened to me.   He gave me medication that helped the pain. He has done epidural injections that has helped the pain a great deal.

 

His Physician Assistants have been wonderful... I went in last week and his P.A. looked at how sick I was from one of the new lupus medications and immediately gave me medication that would help that much better than the medication I was taking.

 

She also gave a trigger point injection... I went home feeling so much better.

I have found Dr.K and his staff to be caring and compassionate.

I have read other posts about bad and threatening signs in his office, (which I haven't seen) how mean the staff is, how uncaring he is... and I have to ask if these people saw the same doctor.

I love when he sings as he is giving the epidural and the way he looks into my eyes and makes me know that he sees me as a person when he does that injection. 

Yes, he has rules, as any person in any relationship should.  His are concerning the law and the safety of his patients.

 

The medications used in his specialty aren't to be played with... they are very serious medications and other doctors aren't qualified to prescribe them as he does nor are they willing to prescribe them or your family doctor wouldn't be sending you to a pain specialist.

I guess it's easy to complain about someone if you break the rules and they drop you.

My thinking on this is that you have to blame someone... why not grow up and learn from your mistakes and get on with life.

 

Dr. K is professional, very good at what he does... and wonderful all the way around.

 

 

 



Comments by graciewolf on 03/31/08, 1:10 pm

oops that was supposed to be a post... not a response to this one...

 

sorry...



Comments by GlindaWitch on 03/31/08, 2:56 pm

Re: graciewolf's comment quote:

'I guess it's easy to complain about someone if you break the rules and they drop you.

My thinking on this is that you have to blame someone... why not grow up and learn from your mistakes and get on with life.'

You have a lot of nerve posting such a broad statement. 

I was most certainly NOT dropped from the practice and I have NEVER broken the pain management contract rules!! 

I BLAME NO ONE for my pain.  Yes, is sucks but it's part of my life and I've learned to deal with it.  I CERTAINLY don't need to be treated so poorly by someone I am PAYING to help me live as pain free as practicable so that I can continue working 50+ hours a week at  my career and maintain a household.

It isn't easy and some days I just don't want to get out of bed but I go on because LIFE GOES ON and if there is something I can change that will make things easier then I'll make the change!

As I've posted before, the Dr. I'm seeing now is wonderful!  He's no 'stiff shirt' as you seem to think all PM Docs are except Mr. K by your post.  He and his staff are very down to earth and so caring and helpful! 

My PM doc in Oregon who I had been with for 7 years was the same as were the four surgeons who have worked on me at one time or another in OR. 

I think YOU watch too much TV.  And, the people who keep Mr. K's rating so low are evidence that this man and his staff are NOT 'wonderful', 'caring', or 'compassionate'.  Since so many people  find this 'doctor' and his staff unacceptable; they cannot be all wrong, OR talking about a different person.

Maybe Mr. K suffers from Schizophrenia...hmm...now that might be worth looking in to :-)



Comments by trophystriper on 11/15/10, 2:20 am

I think Dr. KK is a good Dr. I heard Elizabeth can be mean this summer. I said she has always been nice to me.
   Then I went in for my next appointment. I saw a nurse then another lady which I think is a Dr. I with the slip of the tongue said oxycontin and right away correct that to Hydromorphine. The Dr. said all my medicines were in the computer except for my pain medications. She reguested a urine sample which I was glad to give. I have been seeing Dr. KK or the PA since 2000. Elizabeth came in the room and got right in my face and accused me of buying oxycontin on the street, and of drug store hoping/shoping which they are all tied together and know what you go when, so I don't know why she brought this up.I have never had anything in my urine but what they describe and they know that. She was mean and right in my face accussing me. They told me to make my next appointment which I did and then I was told to wait in the waiting room for my pain medication scripts. Without any word or explanation they cut my pain meds in half. I know this was Elizabeth's doing. By the way she may have a brother who is a back Dr I am not sure but her husband is a PA @ Dr. Chapiuss office.


Comments by Virginia_Rebel on 12/28/10, 11:58 am

All these good comments on KK are years old and at that time I would have given him a 10 also, but lat 2009 into 2010 something happened with him, he just went from Jeckle to Hyde, and Elizabeth wel lets just say I have never me any one who is so unqualified at their job. My next to last visit she told me (and this was done in front of one of the nurses) she knew nothing about withdraws from pain meds. She is not qualified to up or reduce anyones medicine, honestly she aint qualified to work in the pain management feild. I am giving them one week after 1/1/2011 to send my records to this other Dr I want to see, if they dont I will put a complaint with the medical board. The month prior to my last visit something went so wrong with a patient that he came back with a gun looking for Elizabeth or KK and shot at KK. So now you not only have to put up with abuse you have to worry about something like that happening again and that outs everyone in his clinic in danger. You can search and read the story in Atlanta news it happened around may-july 2010.

My wife saw him after she had a car accident, he recomended a lawyer who we went with because at the time we trusted KK 110%, he gave her several injections in then back of her head, when I asked how bad her injury was all he said was....its bad, very very bad.....what the crap does that mean. The lawyer wanted her to keep getting them but they didnt help and were very painfull, plus we wanted to know what the problem was......the lawyer said we had to run the medical bill up...we dont believe in lying or cheating anyone. But we trusted KK at the time. Today she she has symptons that she never had prior to the injections......

I recomend anyone who has been abused  by his people to file a complaint with the medical board. Maybe he will pause and take notice of how patients visits for some have become nightmares.
 Again at one time KK was a very good doctor and had every bit of respect from me.


Comments by Virginia_Rebel on 12/28/10, 12:35 pm

All these good comments on KK are years old and at that time I would have given him a 10 also, but late 2009 into 2010 something happened with him, he just went from Jeckle to Hyde, and Elizabeth wel lets just say I have never met any one who is so unqualified at their job. My next to last visit she told me (and this was done in front of one of the nurses) she knew nothing about withdraws from pain meds. She is not qualified to up or reduce anyones medicine, honestly she aint qualified to work in the pain management field. I am giving them one week after 1/1/2011 to send my records to this other Dr I want to see, if they dont I will put a complaint with the medical board. My wife saw him after she had a car accident, he recomended a lawyer who we went with because at the time we trusted KK 110%, he gave her several injections in then back of her head, when I asked how bad her injury was all he said was....its bad, very very bad.....what the crap does that mean. The lawyer wanted her to keep getting them but they didnt help and were very painfull, plus we wanted to know what the problem was......the lawyer said we had to run the medical bill up...we dont believe in lying or cheating anyone. But we trusted KK at the time. Today she she has symptons that she never had prior to the injections......

I recomend anyone who has been abused  by his people to file a complaint with the medical board. Maybe he will pause and take notice of how patients visits for some have become nightmares.
 Again at one time KK was a very good doctor and had every bit of respect from me.

I reposted this due to spelling mistakes and wanted to clearify that we were not there when the shooting took place we, were told about this a month after it was suppose to of happened.
 








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I was referred to Dr. Kabakibou by my orthopaedic surgeon.  The surgeon was honest enough to tell me BEFORE I decided to have surgery, that I would still wake up every day in pain, it would just be a different type of pain.  This is why I went to Dr. K, to help to MANAGE my pain. 

I will readily admit that his office staff needs some direction and yes, they can be quite rude at times.  The signs on the windows, doors, walls, etc. really need to taken down...most of them are negative.. 'don't knock on the window', 'don't leave brochures', etc.  All of this can be explained by a PERSON, in a not-so-rude manner.

His P.A. is quite friendly and intelligent.  I have nothing but positive remarks to say about Dr. K's wife - I have seen her several times since she joined his practice. My husband has been seeing Dr. K for many years and it has taken him a long time to develop a joking rapport with the doc.  Perhaps it is a language barrier... it has taken me many visits to be able to understand if he is kidding or not.  Do understand that this doctor is a very serious doctor who deals with individuals who sometimes may be trying to beat the system in order to get pain meds (NARCOTICS!).  Also, there are people out there who sell their pain meds.  Dr. K will drug test you in a heartbeat if he suspects this of you.  I don't blame him - he doesn't want to lose his license.  As one poster said, he asked 'who will take care of my wife and children?' (if he makes a mistake)?  He has a full-time staff member just to do drug testing/urine tests to make sure that people really have their pain meds in their system.  Look at Dr. Phil Astin, (the doc for wrestler Chris Benoit) he was placed under house arrest and filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy and is facing charges for overprescribing medication.... Perhaps this will explain Dr. K's cautious behavior.

Dr. K does not spend a lot of time with you, I do believe that he is understaffed and overbooked, but I don't think he is ARROGANT at all.  In fact, the poster who stated that she felt sorry for the 'uneducated' individuals in his waiting room is the ARROGANT one.  Neither I, nor my husband are 'uneducated', but one needs to consider that most people in chronic pain are perhaps dealing with a permanent injury from work, a car accident, a serious health condition, etc. and may not appear to be the richest people in the world.  But what can you tell just by looking at someone in a waiting room?  It is arrogant to look at someone and assume that they are poor or stupid!!!  Dr. K has never treated me rudely, and has seen my husband on several occassions when we had quite a large outstanding balance, which he has allowed us to pay at our own discretion.  Quite the opposite of rude or arrogant.



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Comments by SugarMagnolia on 12/20/07, 11:48 pm

I've had tons of experience with doctors (not so much with myself, but with my children and my mother who suffered from a terminal illness) and I can spot arrogance when I see it.  No language barrier in my situation; as a matter of fact, I couldn't believe that he couldn't think of anything better to say that what he did.  I saw PLENTY of people come running through the front door, right up to receptionist to sign a clipboard and get a handful of prescriptions and leave in a matter of a minute or two.  I know there are people out there just trying to get their hands on pills to get high on or sell to people.  It looked as though it was pretty easy to come in and sign out some prescriptions!  Another thing, I don't care if you call yourself 'Dr.' or not, I don't believe everything I hear and take that information for granted.  I am VERY picky when it comes to the health of myself, my children or anyone else in my family.  I am NOT wealthy or arrogant.  I'm just being honest about the situation that occured with me and what I saw going on around me.  There were definitely people around me in serious pain, suffering. I can't help but think that some of them would not have been there if they only knew that THEY had rights as a patient and that no one, 'Dr.' or otherwise, should ever treat them with disrespect or disregard their health, feelings or well-being just because they were not wealthy, didn't have good insurance or any other reason.  Some people take their doctors' words as automatic truth because they are intimidated. It appeared to me that this Mr. Kabakibou knew plenty about how to intimidate patients, judging by the way I was treated - right in front of my husband, even!  Hey, maybe he's being so nice to you and your husband because you're paying off that large, outstanding balance! (Why risk that cash flow??) Think of the people who can't afford to pay, even over a longer period of time, who may not be so lucky as you.


Comments by GlindaWitch on 01/09/08, 1:37 pm

I am the original poster who called him arrogant that jennab*** decided that I must be the arrogant one in the situation b/c I felt sorry for some of the folks in the waiting room who may not be as knowledgeable about thier condition.  SugarMagnolia wrote it in a better way above 'would not have been there if they only knew that THEY had rights as a patient'....Now for the latest in the never-ending nighmare with this 'Mr.' K. (I LOL when I read that!!) I had an appt last Sat. but was unable to make the 60 mile round trip because I spent most of Friday night at Urgent Care with a raging bladder infection.  The meds for it made me dizzy, I had gotten little sleep and I needed to continue having a 'very' close relationship with a toilet :-).  I tried calling the office about 20 times prior to the time of my appt but the phones were never turned on.  I did leave a message on the 'If you cannot wait until the next business day to talk with the 'Dr.'....' voice mail explaining the situation.  I never recieved a call back.  On Monday I called first thing when they opened and explained again what had happened.  They told me the next available appt. was on Jan 22 - THREE WEEKS from then!.  I told the receptionist that I would run out of meds way before that date.  She said she would connect me to the 'prescription' dept. and I was immediatly disconnected.  I wasn't upset (yet) in fact I was near tears.  I called back and left a message on the 'prescription' dept. voice mail.  I called 2 more times that day and no one could (would) help me.  So, I found a different PM doc to begin seeing and on Tuesday I requested that my records be sent asap.  This 'Misters' office refuses to fax records opting instead for snail mail.  Again I said I did not have enough time...and the nurse actually said 'will you be out of meds?'  Seeing as they write a months worth at a time and I had missed my montly appt I thought that was a no brainer....but I still was not acting angry or upset - you know why?  Because I've read a few horror stories about this office NOT SENDING RECORDS TO OTHER DOCS thereby leaving me w/out a PM doc and probably without a job in the end since I will have zero medication for weeks!  So the nurse told me she would put my file on 'his' desk and that she would have the mysterious 'prescription' dept. call me to let me know 'IF' they could write a script to augment my med supply until I could get in with the new Doc.  Well guess what?  It's Wednesday at 2:30 PM and STILL NO CALL FROM ANYONE FROM THIS 'KIND, CARING, COMPASSIONATE 'DOCTOR'S' OFFICE'!  Now I am getting angry.  I have never in my life heard of a medical practice that did not have some type of contingency plan for patients who have emergencies and cannot make an appt!!  BTW  I've been a patient, paying my $25.00 copay for over a year and have NEVER missed an appt. before now.  AND YOU CAN SAY IN GOOD CONSCIENCE THAT THIS DOCTOR CARES ABOUT HIS PATIENT AND THAT i'M THE ARROGANT ONE?  PUHLEEZE!!!


Comments by christib on 07/16/08, 7:13 am

wow this board is full of ignorant people, I work in an ER and Dr.K is a real physician and is highly regarded in our world.


Comments by SugarMagnolia on 09/14/08, 6:06 pm

If you think someone is ignorant because they shared a bad doctor experience, you've got problems.  Oh, I see.... you work in the medical field.  (Can you say 'objectivity?' It's a good thing to learn.)  Well, you go ahead and regard him all you want.  I hope it gets you somewhere in life or in the ER.  Here's another good idea - why don't you tell him to come here and take a look at what some of his patients and former patients think.  Perhaps it would do him some good.




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I have seen Dr. Kabakabou for almost 4 years now. He has been unfailing in his compassion towards me.

After reading the other negative reviews and felt compelled to defend Dr. Kabakabou. I have never experienced any of the 'arrogance' that others have attributed to him, and would have to wonder if these patients have come to this erroneous conclusion after being unable to coerce him into giving them medications that they did not need, or allowing him adequate time to explore their pain issues and arrive at a solid conclusion.

 He is knowlegeable and was able to focus in on the exact cause of my pain, whereas others had simply taken a 'shot gun' approach.  Dr. Kabakabou looked over all my previous records, then scheduled some additional testing on me. He came to a different (more focused) conclusion than my other physicians had, and his diagnosis proved to be correct. He was then able to focus appropriate treatment on the 'offending' area. He has treated this pain quite effectively with a mixture of therapies which include injections, blocks and pain medication.

To fairly balance the tables though, I will add that his office staff is not the best I've encountered. In my observations, I feel that this may be the result of a lack of management. I have not observed anyone on his staff that would suggest that there is any solid staff leadership. They do their best, but don't seem to have anyone leading by solid example.

In conclussion, my thanks to Dr. Kabakabou for making my quality of life significantly better than it was 4 years ago.



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Comments by SugarMagnolia on 12/20/07, 11:23 pm

After reading your comments, I can't believe Mr. Kabakibou (not sure if he's really a doctor, so will revert to calling him mr. for now) treated you with so much 'unfailing' compassion.  Guess he's been getting your money for 4 years, he probably doesn't want to lose a good thing, huh?  I personally take offense to anyone who assumes I'm one of those people who is just trying to get medicine to sell to crackheads or use it to get high or something.  As a matter of fact, I REFUSED to take some of the crap he tried to prescribe to me because it had morphine in it!  MORPHINE, YES, which I refuse to take when there are several choices in between OTC tylenol and morphine, I'm sure!  And as far as giving HIM adequate time, that is laughable.  He hardly had time for me OR even respect for the time I had waited to see him - WAY too long for a less than five minute office visit!  I felt like I should have gotten a refund on my $30 copay due to his inability to CARE.  Well, I'm glad he made your life better - good luck with that.  He just wasted my time and caused me to be in pain longer than necessary because he wasted my time.




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